Friday, June 27, 2008

The universe is not limited mans perception is

One person's view:

The universe is not limited, man's perception of the universe is limited. Solipsism is egocentrism become rationalization, not reason. No different than ancient people's belief that the universe revolved around them.

Hisenberg's Uncertainty Principle has everything to do with the observation and measurement of particles in applied quantum mechanics, and nothing to do with philosophy.

If you have a problem with that statement then actually study Hisenberg's work, a basic reading in the history of science by Sagan, various published applications of quantum theory models by damn near everybody from Einstein to Hawking, and follow it up with the lectures of Richard Feynman.

The actuality of conditions that cause light to be changed by materials in the world has nothing to do with you perceiving it or not. This is measureable, it is demonstrable, it is elementary.

My response:

If man's perception of the universe is limited, how do you know the universe isn't limited?

Your own perception says so.
You cannot tell me the universe, is absolute, in any sense.

Let's define that term, absolute:
Not constrained by, Time, matter, or space.

free from restriction or limitation; not limited in any way:
b. something that is independent of some or all relations.
c. something that is perfect or complete.

Now let's define some of your terms, so i can try and break down what you said, being as i didn't understand your second sentence:

Philosophy. the theory that only the self exists, or can be proved to exist.

having or regarding the self or the individual as the center of all things

to ascribe (one's acts, opinions, etc.) to causes that superficially seem reasonable and valid but that actually are unrelated to the true, possibly unconscious and often less creditable or agreeable causes.

sound judgment; good sense.
to think or argue in a logical manner.

Let's look at your sentence again now:

Solipsism is egocentrism become rationalization, not reason.

The theory, that only the self exists, is regarding the self as the center of everything, become rationalization (i still don't understand that)
not sound judgment and good sense.

Even when broken down into its simplest parts, i don't get it...
I guess you can restate, hopefully in another, more coherent, manner.
You should be more coherent the first time running through it though.

Then you go on saying, the Uncertainty Principle, has nothing to do with philosophy, and everything to do with observation. What people choose to add to philosophy, is their choice, you can't exclude Heisenberg's findings, saying they were just observation. You never know if something has a bigger meaning.

No one has authority to limit the scope of philosophy, especially something as crucial as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle which cause ripples you couldn't even imagine.


Case in point, you can't say, the universe is absolute, when our perception of it is limited.
That's like saying you see something with certainty, using uncertain eye sight.


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